Liekas EE valdība "izkāpj no skapja" NATO samita Londonā priekšvakarā. EE iekšlietu ministra (bijušā diplomāta) un konservatīvās partijas Ekre priekšēdētāja Marta Helme izsvērtā intervija somu avīzei nevar būt ekspromts, tas ir pārdomāts EE establišmenta konservatīvās daļas signāls izvēloties laiku, vietu un pat runātāja amatu. NATO valsts iekšlietu (!) ministrs neitrālajā (!) kaimiņvalstī runā ar šīs valsts žurnālistu par savas (!) valsts aizsardzības problēmām un NATO (!) nākotni. Kas var būt labāks par šo? Tikai tankista tiešums.
mašīntulkojums no somu valodas, izcēlumi VB
Estonian Government prepares Plan B in case NATO fails to meet its obligation to defend the Baltic States
Mart Helme, Minister of the Interior and Chairman of the Bureau, confirms that Finland has a role in Plan B of the Estonian Government. “Finland is always there. If it applies to Estonia, it also applies to Finland, ”Helme says.
“We are also working on Plan B, which is what Estonia – and not just Estonia but also the other Baltic countries – will do if Macron has actually spoken the truth,” says Estonian Minister of the Interior Mart Helme.
Mart Helme, Estonian Minister of the Interior and Chairman of the Ekre Party, says that the Estonian government has begun drafting a security plan.
The Estonian government is drawing up a contingency plan because, in Helm’s view, it can no longer rely on the Western Alliance guaranteeing the territorial integrity and independence of Estonia under all circumstances.
– I don’t want to say that Macron is 100% true when he talks about the brain-dead NATO, but obviously there are problems with NATO. As we lean on our own security to NATO, we take a close look at what is happening in NATO, and Helme begins to answer the question put by Iltalehti.
French President Emmanuel Macron described NATO as brain-dead in an interview with The Economist in Britain last week.
– NATO holds its summit in London. Yesterday, [Monday], we prepared the positions of the Estonian assembly in the Government. We are also working on Plan B, which is what Estonia – and not only Estonia but also the other Baltic countries – will do if Macron has actually spoken, Helme goes on to say.
Information is extremely important in foreign and security policy. It is also important and significant for Finland.
– What worries us is what is happening in the Middle East: the friendship and partnership between Russia and Turkey or why we ever want to call it.
Uncertainty about US security
Helme says that the Estonian government is preparing Plan B together with Latvia and Lithuania. Together, the Baltic States are preparing for the fact that NATO’s common defense will no longer be fully certain in all circumstances.
– We don’t know exactly what the Americans plan to do. Several of our ministers have recently visited the United States. There everyone talks about China. Very few talk about Russia. There is a China, China, China atmosphere, Far East, Far East, Far East, Helme tells about the Estonian government’s assessment of the situation.
– We are concerned about Russia. At a board meeting on Monday, I stated that we now need to do more in our diplomacy to find out how the so-called big boys are. I mean not just the United States, but also the British, Helme emphasizes.
According to Helm, Estonia is interested in Britain’s attitude to the security of the Baltic states after a possible Brexit, or EU divorce.
– What is Britain’s attitude towards Russia and what is the country’s policy towards the Baltic? It is very important to us. In Germany, the era of Chancellor Angela Merkel is over. That’s clear. What happens next in Germany? Nobody knows how much the end of Merkel’s time will change German foreign policy, Helme points out.
Britain is the leader of NATO’s combat troops stationed in Estonia.
Are Paris and Moscow getting closer?
Helm believes that it is possible that French security policy interest in the Mediterranean will be more focused in the 2020s.
– Are the French looking for a closer relationship with Moscow? Everything is unclear, Helme describes the Baltic countries’ serious concern for their security.
– Nobody knows what’s going to happen next. Therefore, we must have a Plan B, which does not mean that we think Russia will occupy Estonia.
Helme, the chairman of the other main party in Estonia, feels that Finns and Estonians are now witnessing the “end of the Cold War era” and facing a new and unpredictable future.
“To be crystallized, we have to think of new ways of safety, or what we do if this or that or any other third thing happens,” says Helme.
Finland has a role in Plan B of the Estonian Government
Chairman of the Ekre Helme confirms that Finland has a role in Plan B of the Estonian Government.
– Finland is always there. If it applies to Estonia, it also applies to Finland. I think Finland is interested in having an independent Estonia on the southern cliffs of the Gulf of Finland, and not once again on the Russian Empire, Helme estimates.
According to Helm, Russia has always been and will be a threat to Estonia. He points out that, in the light of history, it is impossible to reliably predict the future fates of Estonia and Finland.
– History never exactly replicates itself.
– Russia is always a threat to Estonia. The threat depends on what kind of government Russia has. There are two sides: when there is dictatorship and hard administration, it means a military threat to Estonia. Having a democratic government in Russia and visa-free travel between the EU and Russia means that Estonia will be populated by Russians. Then it is a different threat to Estonians. Relations with Russia will always be complicated, Helme says.
Estonia does not trust the EU as a defense union
According to Helm, the European Union is not a substitute for NATO as a guarantor of Estonia’s security.
– We cannot count on the European Union as a producer of security guarantees. Macron may have big dreams of Europe as a powerhouse, but the EU is not a powerhouse. In the future, it will become even less a power center than it is now. We have to face the future: the EU will not become a center of power, Helme says.
Ekre’s chairman said he was in favor of Estonia’s EU membership and noted that his mistrust was linked to the EU’s role in defense policy.
‘NATO is in crisis’
According to Helm, the Estonian government is following very closely the political developments of the major NATO countries in Europe.
– I think we can rely on many NATO member states, but we certainly cannot know what NATO’s future will be. Maybe everything is going well. NATO has had its own crises in the past, but now NATO is in crisis, and no one knows how NATO will cope with its crisis. That’s why we have to work very hard to build Estonia’s own partnerships with certain countries, Helme says.
Never before has a leading politician in the Estonian government said publicly that the Estonian government is preparing a Plan B in case NATO’s Article 5 security guarantees might not protect Estonia in the event of an attack.
Helme emphasizes that he hopes that NATO will resolve the crisis and remain a strong defense alliance and security against the threat from Russia.
– We want NATO to be strong.
“People still think that NATO will protect Estonia, but ordinary people are not politicians,” Helme points out.
According to Helme, Ekre’s chairman, the Estonian government has a great responsibility in ensuring that a credible plan B is successfully drawn up by Estonia and the other Baltic countries.
– Is NATO capable of fulfilling its mission? Helme says aloud what the Estonian government has been silent so far for diplomatic reasons.
Mart Helme met Finnish journalists on Tuesday at an event organized by the Estonian Political Editors Association at the Estonian Ministry of the Interior in Tallinn.